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Friday, October 08, 2004

The Unmasking of Idiocy - Part 1

My wife is a teacher and one of her co-workers is one of those die-hard republicans that seems to be unable think for themselves. They believe every lie and and do no basic fact checking before repeating the lie. On top of it they cannot even provide good examples of why Dumbya should remain president, all they are able to do is attack Kerry. So my goal for today is to take the mindless one's thoughts and correct them. Text in italics is the mindless one's thoughts verbatim.

Mindless Point 1. - Kerry's War Record.
John Kerry came home from Vietnam and turned on his fellow soldiers. He called Ho Chi Minh the George Washington of his time. At the same time 4 million Vietnamese were getting bullets in the back of the head. He went before Congress and said on world wide television that our troops in Vietnam were raping and pillaging the country and it's people. He gave detailed descriptions. At the same time the information he used was used against our POW's being held in Vietnam and made their already dangerous situation even worse.

I have a real problem with ANYONE that feels that a soldier has no right to question a war he has fought. Never mind that fact that as an American he has every right to question it period.

So let's deconstruct this mess from the start. The supposed Ho CHi Minh quote is from an FBI Report that says that Kerry supposedly stated that "Ho Chi Minh is the George Washinton of his time". This particular nugget of information is pulled from John O'neill's Book "Unfit for Command" John O'neill was originally hired by the Nixon adminstration to attack and discredit Kerry in 1971. The reason being that Nixon feared Kerry and Kerry reminded Nixon of JFK. So we basically have a Republican Hired gun attacking Kerry with an unsubstantiated report of him saying "Ho chi Minh is the George Washington of his time". Sorry I am a thinking man and require a little bit more proof then that.

His next big statement is that 4 million vietnamese received bullets in the back of the head. This is a flat out lie. The entire KIA number for the military and civilians for the entire war was 5.2 million. 2 Million Civilians Killed in the North, 2 million Civilians Killed in the South, 1.1 million NVA/VC and 660,000 ARVN. I know that 90% of the Vietnamese killed in Vietnam were not killed by a bullet to the back of the head. That statement is just a weak stab at being dramatic.
Oh and if you don't believe me here is the Vietnamese Press Release containing the KIA figures for the entire Vietnam War http://www.rjsmith.com/kia_tbl.html#press

The next is one of the biggest deceptions being repeated by the swiftvet folks. Did John Kerry testify before Congress about war atrocities? Yes he did. Here's what they like to leave out. Kerry was sitting before congress and representing veterans from all over the US. The war atrocities stories were given to him by veterans he met In Detroit. The following is actually a quote from those Congressional Hearings:

Kerry Senate Testimony (1971): I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.

It is impossible to describe to you exactly what did happen in Detroit, the emotions in the room, the feelings of the men who were reliving their experiences in Vietnam, but they did. They relived the absolute horror of what this country, in a sense, made them do

The Bit in bold is the only part of the statement that the swiftvets use in their adverts. Convienent isn't it. If you wanna see the actual testimony of what was said before congress go here: http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx@DocID=244.html

That his testimony was used against POW's is hard to understand. War crimes were in fact being committed (see My Lai) by US Troops. Is he wrong for passing on stories that other vets had told him to congress? I say no since he clearly identifies that he is passing on stories that were told to him. He never says I razed the south vietnamese countryside and cut off everyone's ears. Without more facts it's kinda hard to give that final statement any credibilty.

The thing that drives me the most nuts about republican attacks on Kerry's war record is this notion that in order to be a true patriot, you need to never question the government or what they are doing. If you do you are suddenly a treasonous traitor. Since when have we lost our right to question the government. If any group has a right to question a war, it would be the vets that fought it. Does anyone really feel that The Vietnam war was a well fought, well planned, good idea? I am just so goddamn sick of Republicans wrapping themselves in false patriotism. If Jefferson and Payne had acted like the Republicans of today do we'd still be a member of the British Empire.

So in closing it's apparently bad to have a President that can think for himself and stand up and say something when he see's that something is wrong? Ummm ok.









http://www.swiftvets.com/ is a Republican supported propoganda site

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